Boko Haram Leaders Are Ghosts: Obasanjo Faults Jonathan On CNN

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Jan 9, 2013 – Boko Haram Leaders Are Ghosts: Obasanjo Faults Jonathan On CNN

Nigeria’s former leader, Olusegun Obasanjo has faulted President Goodluck Jonathan’s approach in resolving the menace of the Boko Haram insurgency.

In an interview on CNN International today, Obasanjo said Jonathan’s approach was too narrow to deal with the problem created by the Islamic militants, concentrating mainly on the ‘stick’ approach.

In Obasanjo’s view, Jonathan ought to have also employed the ‘carrot’ approach.

“I say that he is doing one aspect well; the other aspect must not be ignored,” the former president told his interviewer.

Obasanjo who said the insurgency was undermining Nigeria’s development in all sectors, apart from security, recalled his meeting with the group two years ago and advised Jonathan not to ignore the ‘carrot’ approach.

“About a year and half ago, I tried reaching out to them and I asked their lawyer who was acting in proxy if they are acting on their own or they have external supports. And he said to me, either Nigerians who have resources abroad are supporting them or other organisations from abroad are supporting them. And if they had 25% support, today, that support is doubled. To deal with such group, you need “Carrot” and “Stick” approach. “Carrot” is finding out what, how to reach out to them and “Stick” is when you are trying to reach out to them, those that are amenable to be reached out to, you have to use the stick approach,” he said.

Obasanjo had canvassed this view in the public arena before, but Jonathan’s response has been that the Boko Haram leaders are ‘ghosts’ and that his government is at a loss as to whom to negotiate with.

The Full interview is reproduced below:

INTERVIEW WITH FORMER PRESIDENT, OLUSEGUN OBASANJO ON CNN INTERNATIONAL ON TUESDAY

Former Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo talks to Zain Verjee in an exclusive interview on CNN International about security in Nigeria and the threat posed by Boko Haram

CNN: What aspect of security have you chosen in your Foundation?
Obasanjo: To improve human security where it is most needed in Africa. We have chosen four areas which are very important; these are food and nutrition security, education, particularly girl/child education, youth empowerment and employment security and health issues. These are the key areas we are focusing on.

CNN: Let us talk a little bit of security in Nigeria and the group Boko Haram. Do they undermine the kind of goals your foundation has?
Obasanjo: Boko Haram undermines security and anything that undermines security, undermines development, health, education, agriculture and food and nutrition security.

CNN: Do they have links with Al Qaeda or any other group?
Obasanjo: About a year and half ago, I tried reaching out to them and I asked their lawyer who was acting in proxy if they are acting on their own or they have external supports. And he said to me, either Nigerians who have resources abroad are supporting them or other organisations from abroad are supporting them. And if they had 25% support, today, that support is doubled. To deal with such group, you need “Carrot” and “Stick” approach. “Carrot” is finding out what, how to reach out to them and “Stick” is when you are trying to reach out to them, those that are amenable to be reached out to, you have to use the stick approach.

CNN: Do you think Goodluck Jonathan has been doing a good job with Boko Haram?
Obasanjo: Well, he has been doing a bit of job but it has to be a double track job

CNN: What do you mean? He must have two tracks (CNN) so he is using the stick approach?
Obasanjo: Yes, he is using the stick
CNN: So you don’t think he is handling it correctly?
Obasanjo: I say that he is doing one aspect well; the other aspect must not be ignored.

CNN: Will Nigeria ever split into North and South?
Obasanjo: No, no, I think Nigerians now know that it will cost us so much more to break up than it will cost us to come together.

CNN: On DRC, can you tell us what Rwanda role is in it?
Obasanjo: I would not believe that Rwanda is back in M23 but I believe that if Democratic Republic of Congo put its own house in order, then no matter how much Rwanda wants to put its dirty finger in to it, it will not succeed much. I don’t think the Rwandan government is directly interfering with the M23 rebels but I can’t be sure that tribes on both sides of the border aren’t involved with them

[Source: PM/CNN]

12 thoughts on “Boko Haram Leaders Are Ghosts: Obasanjo Faults Jonathan On CNN

  1. Obasanjo like to attack Jonathan from different angle wetin self.make obasanjo leave Jonathan alone make the man drink water rest oh jarre.

  2. Why can’t they just join hands together to solve the problems.. If that’s the solution..they shouldn’t just be fooling us jaree..

  3. Firstly, the intelligent citizens of the great Africa continent will never value CNN as a credible news channel. However, to mine own individual understanding, CNN is an anti-Africa new channel and any past or present African leader that has been interviewed by CNN more than once must be a traitor. Such traitors are the Africans that sold their follow Africans during slavery days.
    Remember the imperialistic mission started with slavery and went on for more than four hundred years. And the next phase was colonialism followed by divide and rule which created a lot of civil wars in so many African countries. Nowadays, the game has changed and advanced from human slavery, colonialism and civil wars to economic slavery.
    On the other hand, African problems can only be solved by Africans. Imagine Britain, France, USA etc seeking solutions to their problems in Africa. The answer will be definitely NO but the only way they can do that is the present Arab spring tactic. Due to the trillions of dollars spent in Iraq war, usa and its allied has been hit with economic problems such as recession, increase in unemployment, cuts in welfare services, high crime rate etc.
    However the devil masters came up with the Arab spring tactic which focuses on countries with vast natural mineral resources such as Libya. They promoted, financed and armed there regime change soldiers and baptised them rebels from al Qaeda. This tactic resulted in total destruction of a peaceful country back to Stone Age, killing of generations, ethnic cleansing, killing of another truth speaking great Africa leader but we still have Robert Mugabe as the last man standing
    Moreover, the question is how can the devil masters do this without the help of an insider? This question brings us back to obasanjo and the boko haram. Nigeria is not far from the devil masters to destroy but the present government is their puppet likewise obasanjo. Imagine if the past and present Nigeria governments serve their citizens rightfully, I wouldn’t think boko haram will exist. On the other hand, any rightful government will be labelled dictator by the devil masters whereas the boko haram will classified as rebels.
    The truth is that the devil masters can only back boko haram and call them rebels or friends of Nigerians, if the past and present Nigeria government go against their proposals. Therefore, boko haram will be legitimately recognised as Nigeria government once they will serve the devil masters wishes.
    Obasanjo! Haven’t you heard the say that says charity begins at home? As a self-proclaimed elderly states man, you should learn not to wash your pant in public. How can you reach out to creatures that sold human beings created by god for more than four hundred years for help? Are you not old enough to know that it’s only you that can solve your problems rather than another person or third parties? As an ex-president, don’t you know that social issues are the problems Nigeria is facing before, during and after your premier?
    Finally, I don’t support boko haram killing ideology because there goals can be achieved in a peaceful manner. Remember Dr Martin Luther King and Malcolm x fought for the same cause. Although Dr Martin Luther King was killed by vultures, yet his approach was better than Malcolm X. Bear in mind that god freed obasanjo from prison under abacha’s regime because he could have killed. Yet he chose not the free Nigeria citizens that have been in economic imprisonment since 1960. Obasanjo please disappear from anything Nigeria government like your comrade oladipo diya, since you have negative intentions for this blessed country.

  4. All that is needed to solve Nigeria problem is neither stick nor carrot approach, but dialogue; call it national or sovereign national conference.

  5. True talk jare da game. Their present aproach by d devil masters is called Neo-colonialism whereby dey use wat we call d domestic compradors againts their brothers at home therby running d affairs n ploicys of d nation by dia dictations undermining d outcome of it weda negative wich is alwys d end result. Dont mind d failures and bragados. Rubbish pple

  6. GEJ has really misrepresented himself. I trusted so much in the Zoologist. The man should pack his load and go so that more a more capable hand can try governance.

  7. GEJ has really misrepresented himself. I trusted so much in the Zoologist. The man should pack his load and go so that more a more capable hand can try governance in 2015

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